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Here's an interesting article from Klapisch. I think the malaise of the clubhouse is overstated, but the sentiment rings true- these soft millionaires don't rise to the challenge and Torre will pay the price.
posted by TheJackSack at 1:45 PM
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This article would have looked like a joke a week ago. The "soft" Yankees blew Boston out of the water and dominated Detroit this season. There were plenty of times where our guys did get hits when it counted. So I think this is an article that easy to write now, but it doesn't hold much water for me. Also, Damon, his prime example, was the first to praise Torre, saying he did a terrific job this season.
The problem is simple. Shallow starting pitching and a team too reliant on the homerun. We've had the same problem for three seasons now, why are we so surprised?
Btw, thanks everyone for getting engaged in this. This is probably the best discussion we've ever had on this God-forsaken blog.
How hard was it to beat Boston? They got swept by the Royals this season!
Of course, so did the Tigers and they beat the crap out of us in the ALDS and that's the only stat that matters.
Man, I can't believe Torre might be fired. I would have sex with him for free.
Once we get this Torre issue settled, we can talk about something that might actually effect next year's performance: Who to dump, who to keep, who to get.
I don't see why any of this is torre's fault and not big steinz or cashman. Cashman has at least atoned for 2002 and 2003 mistakes and did a great job this season (Abreu is a player and if hughes and karstens are as good as they potentially seem, we might be onto something)
I'll start the personnel discussion; sheff and mussina have to go and if jeter and arod can't settle their differences, then arod has to go. Mussina has really never come through for us in the postseason and he hasn't been able to complete a season in the last 3. Sheff knows he's good as gone, hence the angry words for joe.
I second the whole damn comment of Senor Garboman with one caveat. If after we decline Muss's option we can sign him for pretty cheap, I think he'd be a solid third or fourth next season. What we need, though, is a number one or two to compliment Wang. Since I don't think there is a true number one available, I think we need to shop carefully and be sure not to overpay the guys posing as aces: Pettitte, Zito, and Schmidt.
I found the comment from Wang interesting that he was ready to pitch game 4 but was told by Torre to stay in New York for game 5. Hindsight is 20-20 but with your season on the line don't you want your best (and not your worst) on the mounds?
I think that ARod has got to go. The drama surrounding him is nothing but a distraction to this team. If the Angels are willing to send us Erving Santan and a package of Figgins and somebody else I say we pull the trigger.
They had to win both Game 4 and Game 5. Wang could only pitch one, so they might as well wait until he's well rested. I think Wright would have had to go Game 5 anyway if Wang went in 4 (the rain out pushed Mussina's start back, so he wouldn't be ready).
Dodort is correct. The only advantage would have been Wright in NY. Would that have outweighed Wang on short rest? I don't know. But it's a really close call either way, I think.
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